ο»Ώ[00:00:00] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: ... Welcome, I am Marketing Expert and Business Coach Melissa Kellogg Lueck, and this is the Doing Business Like a Woman podcast, where we are exploring and teaching you how women are reinventing the way business is done and money is made to help you create greater impact and financial freedom, one business at a time.
[00:00:24] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: All right, we are live. Hello. Hello, friends. I'm so excited to be with you today and thank you for being here and for joining us. I am thrilled to be able to introduce to you one of the most amazing women that I know, a very dear friend and colleague, Robin McIntyre. And she, we get to feature her this month in October in our eWomen network, Northern Colorado chapter as our business matchmaker.
[00:00:57] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: And so we're gonna. [00:01:00] Just find all, find out all the things about Robin. She has so much wisdom to share because she has been championing, champion, championing. Say that 10 times. That's a good word, isn't it? Championing women for 44 years with heart humor and a fierce belief in their potential with a strong background in health and fitness, and now as a certified life and empowerment coach, she helps ambitious women like us.
[00:01:29] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Release the pressure of perfectionism and reconnect with their clarity, energy, and inner calm. It's where grounded meets driven and peace doesn't require perfection. Thank you so much for being here, Robin. It's so great to see you.
[00:01:43] Robin McIntire: Thank you, Melissa, for having me. This is very fun for me.
[00:01:47] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah,
[00:01:47] Robin McIntire: love it.
[00:01:48] Robin McIntire: Yeah,
[00:01:49] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: it's gonna be fun. A great conversation. So, so what I wanted to just talk about first a little bit is, so as a business matchmaker for our [00:02:00] chapter what that means is that Robin has she's a super connector, number one, and number two, she invites guests to come to our eWomen network chapter.
[00:02:13] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: And when three of those guests says yes to membership. Then which is what has happened for her, she was awarded with a sponsorship worth over $2,500 and full of lots of, of benefits, but really what it does signal also in it increases her visibility within our chapter. Because she is a connector.
[00:02:37] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: She is a woman that you wanna know and that you want to know you. And so Robin has been such a encouragement for me over these years, these couple of years of my leadership in the chapter and has always been such a great support and such a cheerleader. And so I'm wondering if you can, talk about, since you [00:03:00] are a big champion for women and have been for so many years, what first inspired you to dedicate your life and your work to helping women?
[00:03:09] Robin McIntire: Oh, I think, I don't think I know my own path has led me here. Lots of hard knocks and honestly, when. I believe that when we can solve some of our own inner conflict and the things that keep us stuck when we figure those out, not that I'm not always working, I feel like our work is never done, but I, I just believe that we are supposed to help other women with that.
[00:03:36] Robin McIntire: And I don't mean supposed to like a should. It's just something in us that tells us we want others to feel the, the goodness that we have felt with the growth that we have done. So, mm-hmm. My own personal development and the things that I've overcome, and I guess I'll nutshell this, Melissa, that going from someone that didn't, wasn't really too fond of herself, to someone [00:04:00] that feels really good now and allows myself to be myself and.
[00:04:04] Robin McIntire: All the good enough stuff. Not, again, not that that doesn't come up sometimes, but that, that is what I want for all women and all people really. And, and I believe the way to get there is to be really, really honest with ourselves. And do a little dig deep. Deep dig digging. Deep dig. Deeping too. Dig Deeping.
[00:04:25] Robin McIntire: Yes. So I love, I love to, I feel like I'm such a safe space for that because of my own things I've been through. And if we can stop judging ourselves, then we can get to the work, then we can get to the, to the other side.
[00:04:38] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah. I love that. And so how do you think looking through that lens helps you in building your business and networking and being able to show up for networking, you know, without that perfectionism or, you know, the masks that we wear.
[00:04:59] Robin McIntire: That has [00:05:00] been a process, I gotta be honest, and the more clear I've gotten about how I want to help women the easier that's gotten. I think, I think personally, I think what makes networking hard sometimes is when we're still stumbling around with our message, which, you know, Melissa, I've been playing with that for a long time because I wanna talk about all the things.
[00:05:19] Robin McIntire: I don't talk about all the things we help people with. But I, I think just honestly, it's a choice to give yourself permission. To be yourself. And it really reminds me of, you know, do we, do I want people to like me for who I am or who they think I might be? And, and I, I really, I heard on a podcast years ago about you want people to either really like you or really not, like as far as who we're attracting as clients.
[00:05:47] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Mm-hmm.
[00:05:47] Robin McIntire: So that helped me a bunch. Like, it's like remembering that we're not everybody's cup of tea. I've had to bring that up so many times to myself. And just being able to really [00:06:00] accept that we aren't gonna be everybody's cup of tea. So if we show up strong and who we really are, it's just easier for people to either find us or leave us.
[00:06:09] Robin McIntire: And same goes both ways, right? When we're looking for people, we want to know who they really are so we can decide if there are people or not.
[00:06:17] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah, absolutely. And so how does that help you create great connections when you're out networking.
[00:06:25] Robin McIntire: Oh my, I guess. Hmm. That's a good question, Melissa. Before I go into a networking event, I, I really, I take a few minutes to center myself and just say whoever I'm supposed to meet, be influenced by, or who maybe I can influence.
[00:06:40] Robin McIntire: I'm gonna trust that that's what's happening as I walk in this room
[00:06:44] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: and
[00:06:45] Robin McIntire: just really try to pay attention and be present with people. And I think it helps sort that out.
[00:06:51] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah. Yeah, I love that. 'cause that's really what connection is all about, right? Like seeing you know, almost [00:07:00] just wa looking for the miracles when you walk into a room and the curiosity of getting to meet people rather than going in and being like, how many business cards can I shove in people's faces?
[00:07:13] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Or What can I get from all these people?
[00:07:16] Robin McIntire: It, it's so true. And we've all, I think we've all experienced that. You know, I've gone in and met people and they, they didn't even ask my name before they handed me a business card, and I thought, wow. I would rather, I think I would rather know your name and your story than, I don't know.
[00:07:30] Robin McIntire: I just, I, that never clicks for me that that's, yeah. I think that's very transparent in the wrong way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's had we, yeah, we wanna look, we wanna meet the person first. And, and not everybody's gonna be our client anyway. I mean, even if they signed up, are they the right person? We wanna make sure it's a fit either way, and we can't do that if we're just boldly handing out our card and not stopping to get to know who we're talking to.[00:08:00]
[00:08:00] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah, yeah. And I imagine that approach has really been helpful for you in being the super connector that you are.
[00:08:10] Robin McIntire: It does. I, I think it does. Well. I, I know, I, I do believe it just helps when we just stay present and it, our answers come, it, it's like there's that inner wisdom, right? And we, we mm-hmm. We have a gut and a gut feelings that we get.
[00:08:25] Robin McIntire: It's, I feel like it's pretty easy to figure out pretty early who might be a fit and who might not be a fit.
[00:08:33] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Mm-hmm.
[00:08:34] Robin McIntire: So connecting with people. What I do love that I can tell you helps me is watching you for one, Melissa, the way you do invite guests and you're just, you're circling in the best of ways.
[00:08:48] Robin McIntire: Like, who can I help, who can I support? Who needs our support? Watching you do that has been really helpful too. And bottom line with eWomen is when I joined eWomen, [00:09:00] I just felt something I hadn't felt in a really long time. So there's that. Yeah. Yeah. It's been four, four years ago, I think in August.
[00:09:08] Robin McIntire: And Wow. There was just a feeling when I came in the room saying, wow, I have missed this. And it was the beginning of me getting out from behind my desk and getting out and networking in person, which. Only Lord knows why I quit doing that. Well, COVID for one.
[00:09:25] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah.
[00:09:26] Robin McIntire: Yeah, that too.
[00:09:27] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: That too.
[00:09:28] Robin McIntire: Yeah.
[00:09:31] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: I love that.
[00:09:32] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: So you talk about grounded meets driven. Mm-hmm. Share what that means to you personally and how that shapes the way you show up.
[00:09:45] Robin McIntire: When, when I was, I was doing a lot of different things. I'll go back to multi-level marketing and I, I felt like I was hustling. I was doing what I was taught, you know, I was hearing from a lot of people, Hey, you can sleep when you're dead and you know, you just gotta go, go, go, go, go.[00:10:00]
[00:10:00] Robin McIntire: And. I know how it felt and, but I also, it, it was brought to my attention with my first life coach in 2018 and I was just, I'm gonna use the word panicked, because if anybody can relate to that feeling right, it's like when we're going so hard and we know we have to get, you know, either the sale or the, the goal, whatever it is, it's just this intense.
[00:10:22] Robin McIntire: Intense pressure that we put on ourselves.
[00:10:25] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah,
[00:10:25] Robin McIntire: and I, I have to say it's, it's through the coaching that really helped me understand that it's all how we, it's all how we show up. So I. Taking time to slow down, having white space, I am such a, I just really push my clients with that. So we, if we do not have white space in our days and in our weeks and in our months, we are going so fast and hard, we just can't stay connected to ourselves.
[00:10:53] Robin McIntire: It's all about outside stuff, obligations, gotta do this, gotta show up, gotta do all the things, gotta do all the things, [00:11:00] right? So whether you call that perfectionism or not, it's still a pressure that we can apply to ourselves. And can be put on us societally if we accept it.
[00:11:10] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Mm-hmm. So,
[00:11:12] Robin McIntire: It just, it just really means that you can still go after what you want, but it's a shift in energy and how we see it.
[00:11:20] Robin McIntire: That helps us get the things done with more calm. So, I'll give you a silly example real quick. My husband wouldn't mind, but, okay. So he used to, he's really good at making eggs, like he can flip three or four ovaries eggs without breaking 'em. And I used to joke with him because in the morning if he broke his eggs, it just would put him in a spin.
[00:11:38] Robin McIntire: And so after that, he stuss his toe and then he. Know he is out the door late and all these things go wrong because of the energy he just got into over this little stress about his eggs.
[00:11:49] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah. So
[00:11:50] Robin McIntire: when I think about grounded, it's like how fast can we catch the stress? And you know, you know, as well as I do, it's all about the thoughts, [00:12:00] right?
[00:12:00] Robin McIntire: It's about our thoughts, it's about our language. So how fast can we catch that and ground ourselves and then go from there? So it's, it's just grounding. You can, you can be as. Successful in anything you want, but you can't be doing it from a panicked state. Yeah, I, I mean, we can, but it's not logical. And, and it put another way, the coach that I hired.
[00:12:22] Robin McIntire: Told me, Robin, you can't create from a place of guilt because I was so guilty that I hadn't found my footing yet in my business and blah, blah, blah. And I, I'll tell you that one line that she gave me, I took it to the bank. I said, you know what? She's right. And she pointed out that all the things that I, all the money I spent with all the trainings and all the things that, that made it mean to me, I should already have arrived.
[00:12:48] Robin McIntire: Yeah. She said Those have all been stepping stones. And in that moment, Melissa, I took that as permission to really let that go. You know, yes, it still comes back every once in a while, but I quickly [00:13:00] grab the thought and hold it up. But to stay grounded, I think we, if we can catch ourselves, that self-awareness is so important, if we can catch ourselves in the thought and knock it down real quick, we can just get on our way much faster.
[00:13:14] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Hmm. That's so good. So in practical sense. How do you practically ground yourself? Like what are some tips and suggestions you give for ground for grounding?
[00:13:25] Robin McIntire: You know, I'm a very visual person and I gave this to a gal yesterday. We were walking and she went, oh my God, I'm so visual. That was so great. So I'm gonna give you this one.
[00:13:33] Robin McIntire: Okay. You know, we can't control the thoughts that come in. Right. We can control what we do with them, but not when they come in. So I always say, well, what if this thing on our shoulders was a clear box and the thoughts were colored pieces of paper with thoughts on them? So they just come trickling in.
[00:13:50] Robin McIntire: Well, our job is, we feel it in our body, right? If it's a good thought, we're happy. You know, we. Feel it. And if it's a bad thought, all of a sudden we're like, what happened to my mood just now? So I [00:14:00] say, okay, grab out that colored piece of paper. Put it out here. It's not you. It's a thought does, it doesn't.
[00:14:05] Robin McIntire: Mm-hmm. You know, it's just, it's not part of us. Look at the thought and read it, and in that moment we decide whether we keep it or not, whether it's serves us or not. Yeah. So I really and truly try as quickly as I can to say that is just my brain doing its thing. Doing its thing and I get to choose. So I really, I, I just think it can be that quick that when we feel stressed, we're looking for, what's the thought?
[00:14:32] Robin McIntire: What, what just happened that put me in the spin? And how fast can I bring myself back?
[00:14:38] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And that awareness is a skill and a practice, right? It's like. I mean, if we go back to your to your fitness, it's like working out, right? Like, it's like doing a pushup when you've never done a pushup before.
[00:14:54] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: It's really, really hard and might even be impossible at first.
[00:14:58] Robin McIntire: It is, it's true. [00:15:00] And, and I really like to tell my anything I teach and like it is a. Really. Right. That's why we don't have real quick fixes as coaches because we're talking about identity and thoughts and behaviors and all the things that add up.
[00:15:12] Robin McIntire: So, so it, it is a practice. I think that's why I say we're, we're never done. We've never arrived because it's like forgiveness. We think, have you ever forgiven someone and then you're like outta the blue. Someday it pops up and you're like, wait a minute. I did a lot of work around that. I thought I forgave that.
[00:15:29] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: I thought we were over that already.
[00:15:31] Robin McIntire: Yeah. So again, it's that that little piece of paper coming in, going, I don't know where you came from, but I don't need this. I've, you know, I've done this. So I do feel like it is a practice, but for anybody especially, that's visual. If you could really just. Understand and know that you know that you know your brain's gonna do these tricks and our job is to catch it.
[00:15:51] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah,
[00:15:52] Robin McIntire: yeah,
[00:15:52] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: yeah. And I think the skill, like how you know, that you're gaining skill in that area is that, [00:16:00] not that you never have negative thoughts, or not that you never feel anxiety or you know, sadness or depression or whatever, but you are able to identify the thoughts and recover quicker.
[00:16:14] Robin McIntire: Yes. Yeah.
[00:16:15] Robin McIntire: 'cause we don't, I'm a big one too. We don't stuff it, we don't cover it up with rainbows and unicorns. Yeah. But I mean, if it's really just something out of the blue and we just know we need, it's like we can, we can work on that later, but right now I just am stressed out and, and that's not gonna work. So I need to flip it.
[00:16:32] Robin McIntire: I can write it down and stress later if I want. But, but yeah, to, I mean, when calm is really, really the goal, it's so easy to measure. Am I calm or am I panicked? And then, and, and take it from there. I just had something really profound to say, Melissa, and it just slipped away. I'll let you know if it comes back.
[00:16:53] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: So this really relates to your business too, and building a business and the entrepreneurial journey, right? [00:17:00] Absolutely, yes.
[00:17:00] Robin McIntire: Absolutely. I, how many times do I wanna quit and go get a JOB? I was at, I was at Shills the other day back by the dressing rooms. I was asking those ladies said, do you like it here?
[00:17:11] Robin McIntire: And I was thinking, I, I could see a lot of people, I could get so many steps, you know, it could be so fun. You get a good discount, probably that for sure. But, but again, when I get in that mood where the brain's trying to just. Discouraged, shut me down, whatever. I literally, it's almost always at night. I don't know if you believe this for me and the people I've asked, I'm like, have you ever noticed that our problems seem really bigger, a lot bigger at night?
[00:17:38] Robin McIntire: They're more magnified at night probably. 'cause we're tired, I don't know. Mm-hmm. And I love my mornings, so at night I just literally go, Robin. Go to bed because, because I know tomorrow. Because I really do accept, it's just, it's this game. My brain's gonna try to make me think I'm failing or you know, that I can't do this when I know darn well I can.
[00:17:59] Robin McIntire: [00:18:00] So,
[00:18:00] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: yeah.
[00:18:00] Robin McIntire: Yeah. It's just, it's having that inner voice get bigger and stronger too, I think, to just say, I hear you, but, but no, I don't. I don't have time for this. So. Yeah.
[00:18:10] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah. And I love that you talk about that as a pattern. 'cause it is a pattern. You know, my. I think mine is in the morning. I, you know, I'll wake up in the morning like, you know, full of like anxiety and like, you know, everything's going to hell in a hand basket.
[00:18:24] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: And here I go right along with it. And so that's in the morning where I really have to work on my, my brain and what's going
[00:18:31] Robin McIntire: on up there. Yeah. And I, I, I will give you this, Melissa, I don't wanna, I don't wanna jump in the pool with you, but you have a lot. Like you, it's so fun to watch all the things you do.
[00:18:44] Robin McIntire: You really are. I'm an empty nester. You're not. I mean, there are different, different things that are easy for me to say and sometimes I need to be reminded that, you know, there's things that I don't have on my plate anymore. So, getting up with a family still at home and running [00:19:00] eWomen our chapter and running your business and doing all the things I can see too, where.
[00:19:05] Robin McIntire: The to-do list, if you wanna call it that, or the things to check off for the day, depending on what that looks like for you. It, I think mornings can be that way as well. Mm-hmm. And, and in that time, another really great thing is a deep breath with, I have time for the, for all the things. Yeah. You know, to, to, I think that's really calming when we remind ourselves because mm-hmm.
[00:19:29] Robin McIntire: Really. When we say that and when we can get to believe it even for that morning or for that day. It's amazing. I think my coach called it bending time, but I really believe it's true. It's like time slows down when we slow down a little. Mm. And and carry the belief through the day that we can do it.
[00:19:48] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: That's good. That's really good because time is always one of my, one of my obstacles, like that's what my brain will consistently give me is that thought, I don't have time. I don't have enough time. You [00:20:00] know, and that's what, that's what my brain knows, will always slow me down to. Avoid and procrastinate and think, which obviously just self perpetuates
[00:20:11] Robin McIntire: the time thing.
[00:20:12] Robin McIntire: That keyword. Oh no, I know, I know. So that's
[00:20:14] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: what my brain, you know, that's my brain's go-to, to keep me in the cave is like, you don't have time for that. Don't do that. Just stay here in the cave. You know? Yeah.
[00:20:23] Robin McIntire: I know that one well too. I do. Yeah. Yeah. It's so fun this journey. It is, and I think too, with the, the whole time thing, it's almost become a game for me when I think, when my first thought is I don't have time.
[00:20:42] Robin McIntire: And then I say, but you know what you do and I do. Just take a breath. It, it, it really does. There is something special about it. And it also makes me it also makes me keep white space in my, in my days, and I just know what [00:21:00] happens, especially when I'm talking about the at night when you're just about to cave and you think, I just can't do this anymore.
[00:21:06] Robin McIntire: It's almost always when I'm overbooked or, or said yes to one too many things. Even though I feel like I'm really good at selecting my yeses and nos, I still. I start to feel the O word, which I don't use anymore. Overwhelm. Mm-hmm. That's, that is my goal. A couple years ago I quit using the word overwhelm and it's been amazing how it's helped me not be as overwhelmed.
[00:21:32] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah. Isn't that interesting?
[00:21:33] Robin McIntire: Mm-hmm.
[00:21:34] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: We did this experiment over the summer with my kids where we wouldn't allow them to say, I'm tired, or we, obviously, they can say it, but they'd have to do pushups or something when they said, I'm tired, because that's what they wanna say. I'll, like, you ask, it's time to do the dishes, or it's time to do your chores or mow the lawn, or whatever.
[00:21:50] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: I'm tired, I'm tired. And, you know, or we're gonna go camping. We're going to do something really fun. I'm tired. And we, and so we're like, no, you know, drop and gimme 10 [00:22:00] pushups. I love
[00:22:01] Robin McIntire: that. I love that. That's very character building, right? Yeah. Let's prove you're not tired. Yeah.
[00:22:10] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah. Because it's just a, a lot of times it's just that first thought that comes up, right?
[00:22:15] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Mm-hmm. And then it comes out of our mouth. Mm-hmm. And the power of speaking something. You know, once we think it and then we speak it, and especially using those I Am statements, then we give power to that statement. And we might not necessarily want to be doing that.
[00:22:30] Robin McIntire: And I still have to catch myself often at that.
[00:22:32] Robin McIntire: It's true. It that is a, that's a real language is so much. It's language is, I love to listen to people's stories for that reason. Because if the quickest way to, I think help validate people's stories, not keep 'em in it, but validate. Is, you can hear how strong their belief is in their story by the words that they use to describe it.
[00:22:56] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Mm.
[00:22:57] Robin McIntire: You know, like I had a, I had a client one time, she was so [00:23:00] fun in this group, group coaching we were doing, and she'd just say, well, here I am here on fire. And she, I'm a hot mess. And I mean, she was so funny that it was hard. It was hard to correct, but. It. It was a reality because of how she and she was having fun with it, but it still mattered.
[00:23:16] Robin McIntire: You know? She just, everywhere she went hair on fire, you know? So, yeah, our language is really important.
[00:23:25] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: So tell me a little bit more about the white space. How do you create that? What are your recommendations around white space?
[00:23:31] Robin McIntire: I think the first thing is committing. And, and believe me, and I mean some of the gals that I work with around boundaries, that's so tough that the first thing we have to get right is buy-in.
[00:23:42] Robin McIntire: That, that this will help you. And by saying no to certain things, which by looking at our calendar two weeks in advance, if you looked at everything on there and said, and picked out the things that didn't excite you, that could be our first clue, right? Really protecting our time. So white [00:24:00] space for me is I love my mornings.
[00:24:02] Robin McIntire: That's, that's when I work out. That's when I do my gratitude journal. That's when I do a lot of personal development, whatever. But I, I love my mornings for that. That's when I'm really sharp or, and I also will come in and do content creation sometimes in the mornings, because mm-hmm. Again, I'm excited, I'm sharp, where later in the day I will push out coffee dates.
[00:24:23] Robin McIntire: Later in the day, just because that's, once I go socialize and, you know, sit back, it's harder for me to come and do those things. So first of all, I guess on your schedule, you know, what are the, what are the great things that really fuel you as a, as a human and a business person? What, you know, work around some fun and some joy.
[00:24:44] Robin McIntire: And then and I have certain, like Tuesday through Thursday are my days where I actually take coaching. Appointments. And then Mondays and Fridays I leave open intentionally Monday for, you know, things I wanna do in, you know, work behind the scenes Friday can be flexible. So really [00:25:00] designing it the way you want it when you can, if you have, if you have that ability for your business.
[00:25:04] Robin McIntire: And, and then just not making sure that all those time blocks are not filled in, like. Leave some space and I've got, self-care is one of my color blocks. It's lavender on my Google calendar. So if, you know, even dentist dentist, doctor, massage, walk with a friend, those all go under self-care. So, so really making time for that.
[00:25:26] Robin McIntire: The other thing I really swear by is going to bed at a decent hour that, you know, helps the mornings those kinds of things. But I, I used to run so hard that I didn't even have time. To look in the mirror and say, how you doing? You know, like, right. Yeah. So it, it is something I think that's real personal, personal for people.
[00:25:46] Robin McIntire: Like where do you fit it in? But that's where seeing no with love comes in boundaries. All those things, it all contributes, right?
[00:25:54] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah. Yeah, it's so good. Yeah, I ever since my kids are little, I always get up [00:26:00] in the morning early before everybody else. That's my time. Right? While, while the house is still quiet and dark, I love walking around in the dark for some reason, but
[00:26:10] Robin McIntire: nobody's gonna bother me.
[00:26:13] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah. Yeah. And I still do that to this day, and I don't use an alarm either, which has been a huge thing for me as a self-care thing because. I don't know. It just feel always felt so jarring and very, I don't know, traumatic for me. So I just was like, I'm just gonna stop and start trusting my body to get the sleep she needs.
[00:26:33] Robin McIntire: That's awesome. Melissa. I love to rise early, but I think if I waited, I think my alarm needs to wake me because otherwise I'm disappointed. I. Because I do love the early mornings too, but that's really cool. My husband's at that point too, where his body just wakes up. He wakes up at four 30. I used to do that.
[00:26:50] Robin McIntire: Not anymore. That was part of my, that was part of my hustle.
[00:26:54] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah. Yeah. I love this. Thank you so much. So as we wrap up, if. [00:27:00] If you're looking back on your career, the work, all the work that you do with women that you've coached, what's a lesson about connection and community that you wish every women entrepreneur knew?
[00:27:14] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Every woman entrepreneur knew?
[00:27:17] Robin McIntire: I would have to say that when we're part of a community, we don't just get to support other women, but we can feel supported. Mm-hmm. My experience in my, in as a young woman with bulimia in high school, the isolation of that, I always say it was the secret that about killed me.
[00:27:39] Robin McIntire: Mm-hmm. Not to say we come to these and disclose all our deep, dark secrets, but having a community of women where you can feel seen, heard and understood and these things take time. Right? It might take a while to meet somebody that might have your same story or similar story. Mm-hmm. Having the support of other women is, oh my [00:28:00] gosh.
[00:28:00] Robin McIntire: Well, it's on the hierarchy of needs right? As well as we really, isolation is not, is not okay. And as an entrepreneur, especially female entrepreneur especially, especially we, it's, it can be lonely, leadership can be lonely. So getting together with like-minded women who are serious about their business.
[00:28:19] Robin McIntire: It's, I, I just can't believe I did it by myself for so long without it, so yeah, I would just say if you're trying to figure it out all by yourself, it's gonna take twice as long and it's just not near as fun. And if we're not having fun, we're doing it wrong. That's right. Life is too short. It's too short
[00:28:38] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: to not have some fun.
[00:28:39] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So is there anything else that you'd like to add that I didn't ask? Anything that comes to mind?
[00:28:52] Robin McIntire: No, I just really appreciate you having me here. It's, I, I love to talk about these types of things and I really believe that [00:29:00] if we go first as leaders with vulnerability and sharing, it's just easier for everyone else to have permission to do the same.
[00:29:06] Robin McIntire: So. I just appreciate this time. I don't just appreciate it, Melissa. I really appreciate it, Melissa. So thank you.
[00:29:14] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Well, we so appreciate having you as part of our chapter. I mean, you really are part of the soul of that room and the way that you make everyone feel so comfortable and welcoming and belonging.
[00:29:27] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: It is just been amazing and I really appreciate that. And the leadership that you, that you show just in how you can be authentic and real and be yourself and still be killing it, you know, and, and just building a, an amazing life and an amazing business and, and then having fun while you're at it.
[00:29:50] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: You've been such a great example and inspiration for me, so I appreciate you. Thank you, Melissa.
[00:29:56] Robin McIntire: That means a lot. Thank you.
[00:29:58] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: You're so welcome. Thank [00:30:00] you. This was fun. This was super fun. All right. Okay.
[00:30:06] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Oh, and then before we go, I also wanted to make sure and ask you where can we. Keep up with what you are up to. Where's the best places to follow you and connect with you?
[00:30:19] Robin McIntire: You know, I would honestly say I've got some great freebies on my website, and yes, that way you're on my email list. If you don't like staying there, that's fine too.
[00:30:27] Robin McIntire: But the, the, my freebies, I have one about flow versus grind energy and some stuff on habits. So I love to shoot people to Robin at Robin mc well robin mcintyre.com that's spelled with all eyes. R-O-B-I-N-M-C-I-N-T-I-R-E.
[00:30:44] Melissa Kellogg Lueck: Awesome. Thank you so much, Robin, for being here. Thank you.
[00:30:49] Robin McIntire: It was fun.
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